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, missouri, i'm jim lehrer. thank you, and good night. [applause] c-span [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> monday, an interview with former presidential candidate ross perot. he talks about the status of the economy, the deficit and debt, and how it has changed since his campaigns in 1992 and 1996. here's a portion of that interview. >> you established a third party. he ran twice. you established -- what was it? united we stand and then the reform party. do you think there is something wrong with the two-party system that has gotten, as we have seen, more acrimonious? >> it is almost impossible to do it. it would be a healthy thing if you could get it done and make it happen. they know they are going to be butchered from day one for what they have done. >> "usa today's" richard wolfe talks with ross perot. and to confine his article on monday in "usa today." >> my opponent and his running mate are big believers in top down economics. they basically think that if we spend another $5 trillion on tax cuts that f
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